Comments on: The Armenian Genocide http://warcrimes.foreignpolicyblogs.com/2007/04/24/the-armenian-genocide/ The official Web log of Great Decisions 2007 Sun, 23 Nov 2008 15:30:36 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=wordpress-mu-1.0 by: Daniel Graeber http://warcrimes.foreignpolicyblogs.com/2007/04/24/the-armenian-genocide/#comment-760 Wed, 31 Oct 2007 21:36:25 +0000 http://warcrimes.foreignpolicyblogs.com/2007/04/24/the-armenian-genocide/#comment-760 Thank you so much for taking the time to share your thoughts. I'm wondering if this resolution was an effort to influence Turkey in one way or another regarding current activities in Iraqi Kurdistan. Thank you so much for taking the time to share your thoughts.

I’m wondering if this resolution was an effort to influence Turkey in one way or another regarding current activities in Iraqi Kurdistan.

]]> by: Erkin http://warcrimes.foreignpolicyblogs.com/2007/04/24/the-armenian-genocide/#comment-759 Wed, 31 Oct 2007 20:50:27 +0000 http://warcrimes.foreignpolicyblogs.com/2007/04/24/the-armenian-genocide/#comment-759 There's totally *dispute* and moreover not enough evidence that 1915 was a genocide and not a mass killing of armenians in war conditions. But whoever supports this idea is punished by Armenian diaspora, insulted and accused of relations with Turkish government. Armenians totally have political support in the issue but they don't have such academic support but their facilities' which they call mainstream. Also, first Armenian prime minister calls 1915 not a genocide who was the closest to those events. Turkish and Armenian people gave so many deaths but there are also Turkish people killed by Armenians that amounts to 500000. This is never sounded in discussions. To conclude, even though Turkey opened its archives, Armenia can't open its archives for academic studies. Instead they teach and persuade about genocide which is not acceptable and not rational. This genocide discussion is now a dogma that can't be discussed by historians and it is mostly politically supported by Armenian money and votes. There’s totally *dispute* and moreover not enough evidence that 1915 was a genocide and not a mass killing of armenians in war conditions. But whoever supports this idea is punished by Armenian diaspora, insulted and accused of relations with Turkish government.

Armenians totally have political support in the issue but they don’t have such academic support but their facilities’ which they call mainstream. Also, first Armenian prime minister calls 1915 not a genocide who was the closest to those events.

Turkish and Armenian people gave so many deaths but there are also Turkish people killed by Armenians that amounts to 500000. This is never sounded in discussions.

To conclude, even though Turkey opened its archives, Armenia can’t open its archives for academic studies. Instead they teach and persuade about genocide which is not acceptable and not rational. This genocide discussion is now a dogma that can’t be discussed by historians and it is mostly politically supported by Armenian money and votes.

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]]> by: Daniel Graeber http://warcrimes.foreignpolicyblogs.com/2007/04/24/the-armenian-genocide/#comment-268 Wed, 25 Jul 2007 14:05:52 +0000 http://warcrimes.foreignpolicyblogs.com/2007/04/24/the-armenian-genocide/#comment-268 Brian, Thanks for the comments! I appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughts. I think the 'dispute' comes from the lack of records and substantial evidence on the books. And, I don't mean to be contentious, but looking to Hitler for evidence of human rights violations? Brian,

Thanks for the comments! I appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughts.

I think the ‘dispute’ comes from the lack of records and substantial evidence on the books. And, I don’t mean to be contentious, but looking to Hitler for evidence of human rights violations?

]]> by: Brian http://warcrimes.foreignpolicyblogs.com/2007/04/24/the-armenian-genocide/#comment-265 Wed, 25 Jul 2007 00:04:28 +0000 http://warcrimes.foreignpolicyblogs.com/2007/04/24/the-armenian-genocide/#comment-265 There's no *dispute* in regard to the Armenian Genocide. Mainstream academia, as expressed by the Institute for the Study of Genocide (ISG) and the International Association of Genocide Scholars (IAGS), has concluded that the events of 1915-1923 do amount to a Genocide. Rafael Lemkin also cited the events of 1915-1923 in his attempt to define the term ''Genocide''. And besides, it was Hitler who said.. ''who after all remembers the Armenians'' when he begun the final solution. Any attempt of Genocide denial is treated as denial of the Holocaust in most European countries. The only reason why the US, the UK and Israel don't recognize it as a Genocide is due to their close ties with Turkey although, as recent developments show, they are already taking steps for the recognition. There’s no *dispute* in regard to the Armenian Genocide. Mainstream academia, as expressed by the Institute for the Study of Genocide (ISG) and the International Association of Genocide Scholars (IAGS), has concluded that the events of 1915-1923 do amount to a Genocide. Rafael Lemkin also cited the events of 1915-1923 in his attempt to define the term ‘’Genocide'’. And besides, it was Hitler who said.. ‘’who after all remembers the Armenians'’ when he begun the final solution.

Any attempt of Genocide denial is treated as denial of the Holocaust in most European countries. The only reason why the US, the UK and Israel don’t recognize it as a Genocide is due to their close ties with Turkey although, as recent developments show, they are already taking steps for the recognition.

]]> by: Bill Hewitt http://warcrimes.foreignpolicyblogs.com/2007/04/24/the-armenian-genocide/#comment-47 Thu, 26 Apr 2007 13:38:24 +0000 http://warcrimes.foreignpolicyblogs.com/2007/04/24/the-armenian-genocide/#comment-47 Great summary, Dan. There’s a great piece too in the new issue of the “NY Review of Books” on a new book on the genocide. Plus, there was a fairly arresting full-page ad in the “NY Times” the other day, and in several other major publications, from the Turkish government inviting the Armenian government to establish a joint commission to study the events of 1915. See this news article from “Today's Zaman,” an English-language publication from Turkey. I once heard the Turkish Consul General in New York, when challenged on the genocide, visibly tighten up and give a canned answer to the effect that yes, Armenians died, but there were not so many as people have claimed, and it was part of reprisals against Armenian fifth-column activities, not a mass, planned action by the Ottoman government. Great summary, Dan. There’s a great piece too in the new issue of the “NY Review of Books” on a new book on the genocide. Plus, there was a fairly arresting full-page ad in the “NY Times” the other day, and in several other major publications, from the Turkish government inviting the Armenian government to establish a joint commission to study the events of 1915. See this news article from “Today’s Zaman,” an English-language publication from Turkey. I once heard the Turkish Consul General in New York, when challenged on the genocide, visibly tighten up and give a canned answer to the effect that yes, Armenians died, but there were not so many as people have claimed, and it was part of reprisals against Armenian fifth-column activities, not a mass, planned action by the Ottoman government.

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